By Star Chang, posted Jan 30, 2013 at 6:23 AM, 1,856 views,

China New Military Cargo Plane is a Knockoffs ? (Video)

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China lacks of large cargo aircraft, and now they are building it. For the first time, the Chinese Air Force launched their new heavy-lift transport aircraft Y-20. The new plane will enable China to project military power across vast distances. But its design appeared to incorporate features from the world’s most advanced military cargo plane, the US-made Boeing C-17 Globemaster. C-17 is certainly a “much better plane”, one of the reasons being that it apparently uses a much higher proportion of lightweight composite materials, which China is difficult to produce …

Y-20 is China’s biggest home-produced military transport jet to date, it is 154 feet long and 50 feet tall, with a wingspan of 147 feet. The new aircraft has a maximum payload of 66 tonnes, which it can carry as far as 4,400 kilometres. It is big enough to hold the heaviest tank used by China’s army. Comparing with US-made Boeing C-17, Y-20’s maximum load and flying range are likely to be lower than expected, due to the plane’s reliance on a “very old” Russian-designed engine, which has very bad oil consumption and wastes a lot of fuel. In the mean time, the US Air Force says on its website that it has more than two hundred C-17s in its inventory, while the China Y-20 was likely to take at least another five years to enter operational service.


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SOURCE: ChinaDaily, AFP


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  • j.lucas

    if that is knockoff. add european A400, kawasaki C2, embraer KC-390, russian MTA, and few more out there to the list too. LOL

    • Richard

      Totally agree with you. This website should stop making fun of China and calling any Chinese product “knockoff”. This anti-China attitude is getting annoying and ridiculous. In general, some racists are still jealous of Chinese progress and successes.

      • angelus512

        You lived in China Richard? Because I have, infact I’m on my way back there in another 1-2 months. I’ve cumulatively lived in that country for roughly 4-5 years so far and I can refute you wholeheartedly.

        China is swimming with knockoffs. Its inherently a knockoff nation where being able to copy something is far more praised than the intelligence it takes to take risks and try something new.

  • testt

    “the US-made Boeing C-17 Globemaster.
    C-17 is certainly a “much better plane”, one of the reasons being that
    it apparently uses a much higher proportion of lightweight composite
    materials, which China is difficult to produce …”

    —

    dont
    know how much % of composites they have on that plane, but the
    materials are no problem to them at all. AVIC the maker of the plane
    owning FACC one of the biggest composite materials specialists in
    aerospace industry. also, has a joint venture company with boeing
    specializing in aero composites. the boeing tanjin composites has been
    producing composite structure parts for boeing airplanes for awhile
    now..

    FACC, an austrian aero composites specialist acquired by AVIC 5 years ago
    *ttp://www.facc.com/en

    Boeing Tianjin Composites, a joint venture with AVIC, unveils energy-efficient facility
    *ttp://boeing.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=43&item=1708

  • Richard

    This website should stop making fun of China and calling any Chinese product “knockoff”. This anti-China attitude is getting annoying and ridiculous. In general, some racists are still jealous of Chinese progress and successes.

    • RyanF1

      How are this website’s authors “racists” towards Chinese? Aren’t they native Chinese themselves? Look at how “Star Chang” writes in English, “a knockoffs” and “China lacks of cargo aircraft”.
      And YES, the Y-20 is a knockoff. How can a country that hasn’t proven its expertise in building turboprop cargo planes suddenly leap ahead to testing a wide-body turbofan aircraft? Where is the Chinese attempt at something like the Lockheed C-130, and building upon its record for reliability and not just performance? Cheating your way ahead, especially in the aerospace industry, is NOT “progress and successes”, despite popular imagination. Eventually the flimsy foundation upon which facades are built will show in the form of one aerial mishap or even disaster after another.

      • Richard

        Y-20 is not a knockoff. China has gained extensive experience in making Y-8 and Y-10 for decades.

  • Richard

    I can also refute you totally. Chinese products have improved to the point of being able to challenge the so-called industry leaders. As a result, China is now drawing a lot of jealousy, just because the position of the so-called leaders are now being challenged by high-quality Chinese products.

  • Richard

    I can also refute you totally. Chinese products have improved to the point of being able to challenge the so-called industry leaders. As a result, China is now drawing a lot of jealousy, just because the position of the so-called leaders are now being challenged by high-quality Chinese products.

  • RyanF1

    Nice try citing the Y-8 and the Y-10. The Y-8 wouldn’t exist if not for the Antonov An-12. The Y-10 wouldn’t exist if not for the Boeing B707 and B720. I asked for “expertise”, not “experience”. Experience is just a matter of Time. Expertise is a matter of Inspiration, Design, Genius, and most of all, Original Design. There is nothing “jealous” about that observation. We in the West call it like we see it. A knock-off is still an imitation, no matter how well-made. If Chinese Aerospace Engineering is so good, how come China Airlines flies Boeings?

  • Richard

    China now has both expertise and experience. You are just jealous of China’s progress. This is not the same China from 50 yrs ago. China is showing they are better than the so-called western countries which are in rapid decline. That is why whenever China comes up with their own innovation, the jealous westerners would claim they are knockoffs. This is so laughable to the Chinese world.

    This particular Y-20 is an original design, not based on anything else. Jealous westerners need not reply.

  • RyanF1

    If “this particular Y-20 is an original design”, then why does the writer state, “Y-20’s maximum load and flying range are likely to be lower than expected, due to the plane’s reliance on a ‘very old’ Russian-designed engine”? LOL, if China “has both expertise and experience”, then why can’t it design and build its own original engines for its so-called original aircraft? “Not the same China from 50 yrs ago”? Hmmm, maybe you should get back to us in another 50 years. Maybe by then China will have its own unique jet engines. Until then, its just another customer of Antonov, Klimov, NK, NPO, or maybe GE, Pratt & Whitney, and Rolls Royce.