By Cyril Chang, posted Sep 11, 2012 at 8:27 PM, 278,062 views,

The Undercover Report on How the New iPhone 5 is Made Inside Foxconn Factory

A Chinese news agency, Shanghai Evening Post, has sent an experienced journalist to slip into the Foxconn Tai Yuan factory and pretended as a new worker, his mission is to find out how the new iPhone 5 is produced. The Chinese journalist precisely recorded his 10 days of working experience in the factory and published a dairy to disclose the inside story of manufacturing the iPhone 5. The Tai Yuan Foxconn factory is recently well-known for it’s large-scale workers strike which took place during March. Back then the factory urgently needs 20,000 more workers because Foxconn has received orders for the production of iPhone 5. The plants needs to produce 57 million iPhone 5 for each year. Apparently, the journalist only stayed inside the Foxconn factory for 10 days due to the undesirable working conditions. He has undergone mean training during the first 7 days and finally got the chance to take part the producing of iPhone 5 on the 8th day …

UPDATE SEPT 24 – Part 1: Taiyuan Foxconn has gone strike !
UPDATE SEPT 24 – Part 2: We have got in touch with the undercover journalist.

Editor note: If you have no patience to read his orientation experience over at Foxconn, please skip to day 8 section for the detail on iPhone 5 manufacturing, that is the best part of the whole undercovered story. But we still highly recommend you to read from day one as there are many interesting inside stories about Foxconn working condition that we never heard before.

We have summarized and translated his entire diary as below:

DAY 1: Recruitment – “Good health with Citizen Identity Card”

Recruit of new workers. (Photo Credit: AP)

I have contacted the person in charge of the Human Resource who’s handling the recruitment and I was told that I can work in Foxonn as long as I’m healthy and own a citizenship identity card. When I reached the entrance of Foxconn factory, I was approached by a so-called Foxconn security guard who asked for 100-200 yuan (USD$15-28) to provide me a faster way to start working in Foxconn, but I ignored him. I was asked to fill in a form to test my current state of mentality. There are about 30 mentality questions for me to answer “Yes” or “No” of how do I feel for the past 30 days. For example one of the questions they asked: “Have you got into a state of mental trance recently ?” Finally after answering all the questions, other workers and I took a bus ride to the Taiyuan Foxconn factory.

Foxconn factory in Tai Yuan, Shanxi province in North China.

Foxconn provides basic dormitory for the workers. (Photo Credit: Daily Mail)

The first night sleeping at Foxconn dormitory is a nightmare. The whole dormitory smells like garbage when I walked in. It’s a mixed of overnight garbage smell plus dirty sweat and foam smell. Outside every room was fully piled up with uncleared trash. When I opened my wardrobe, lots of cockroaches crawl out from inside and the bedsheets that are being distributed to every new workers are full of dirts and ashes.


DAY 2: Signing Contract – “No environmental harm ?”

Briefing on new workers during the orientation.

I was having my first breakfast in Foxconn canteen on the 2nd day morning when I heard a loud scream: “Fxxk! The food sux ! Don’t expect me to work overtime !” After the shouting, the same guy whispered that he will damage the bed at the dormitory before he quits. This might explained why there’s a large hole on my wooden bed plank. We were asked to sign the employment contract right in the canteen after the breakfast. The contract has highly emphasized on 4 confidential areas that need to be kept strictly confidential, 1: All technical information, 2: Sales figures, 3: Human resource, 4: Production statistics. The contract didn’t mention much on the overtime works. Under the section of “Possible harmful effects that may cause to worker during production”, the management has asked us to tick “No” for all of them. This includes “Noise pollution” and “Toxic Pollution”, I was wondering if the production floor will caused any harmful effects while working.

The crowded canteen in Foxconn factory.


DAYS 3 to 6: Training Session – “All you need to do is OBEY”

Worker’s dormitories have been framed behind safety wire that looks like bars.
(Photo Credit: Daily Mail)

The day after signing of the contract, we are being gathered in a hall and briefed with the history of Foxconn company, policies and safety measures. During the whole conference, we are being highly emphasized on one point: “When you leave the lab, there’s no advanced technology, you only need to obey instructions.” We are being distributed with a checklist with only 13 rewards policies but over 70 penalties policies. The instructor said: “You might feel uncomfortable of how we treat you, but this is all for your own good.” After that we are asked to watch an orientation video on the Foxconn factory. When someone has asked about the suicide issues, the management staff didn’t avoid the topic but not willing to discuss too much on it. During the suicide topic discussion, someone has voiced out that the bad living environment will sure lead to more suicides. Also I have noticed that all the windows in the dormitory has been framed behind bars.


Day 7: Break Time – “Release of Stress”

Working in Foxconn might face heavy stress.

After the training session we are being arranged to start work very swiftly but it’s already night. We are only allowed to rest during the day time. After all the intensive trainings and briefings, I had a fever and terrible headache before I can even start work. I requested to visit the hospital in the factory, but there’s only one doctor on shift handling 4-5 patients at the same time. When I asked one of the nurse about how can I claim the medical checkup fees, the nurse rudely reply me: “Go and ask your boss ! “

For the past several days, I have been to many Foxconn facilities such as dormitory, canteen, bathing room, playground, gym, hospital, postal office, library and shopping street etc. Although most of them are free of charge but the facilities seriously needs improvements. For example, inside the entertainment center there are 2/3 of the arcades games are malfunction. The so-called theater room only shows a screen shot picture of a meeting room. The most interesting part is out of the whole Foxconn factory, I can’t find a single place selling beer, sitting stool and poles for hanging laundry clothes.

Over the weekends, outside at the playground, there’s a social gathering where all Foxconn workers gather and dance. The host of the party speaks through the mic: “We are all over stressed everyday and we are not allowed to shout on the production floor. Over here you can shout as loud as you want to release your stress.” One of my room mate has told me that he likes this weekly dancing party very much and he has found a girlfriend during the dance.


DAYS 8 to 10: iPhone 5 Assembling- “Do what you are told to do !”

The production line in Foxconn.

We have reached the entrance of the production floor with a warning sign that says: “TOP SECURITY AREA”. We are told that if anyone enter or exit the metal detector door and found carrying any metallic stuff on your body such as belt buckle, ear rings, cameras, handset, mp3 players, the alarm will sound and you will be fired on the spot. One of my room mate told me that his friend has been fired because he carried an USB charging cable. When I walked into the production floor after passing through the metal detector door, I heard loud sounds of machinery engines and a very dense of plastic smell. Our supervisor warned us: “Once you sit down, you only do what you are told”. The supervisor finally present us the back of the iPhone 5 and shows it to all of us and said: “This is the new unleashed iPhone 5 back plate, you should be honored having the chance to produce it”

Our line is being assigned to use masking tapes and plastic stoppers to cover up the earphone jack and the connector ports of the back plate in order to prevent the paint from being sprayed onto it on the next process. Our supervisor asked us to put on our mask and gloves and see how the seniors work on it. At 11 p.m, we went for a supper and after midnight, we started work again. I’m being assigned to mark placement points on the iPhone 5 back-plate using an oil-based paint pen. I’m being scolded many times for spilling too much oil on the markings. My roommate has being assigned to paste the masking tapes of not more than 5mm wide on the right spots that I have marked. And he has being scolded many times for pasting them too slow. Our supervisor said that these works were actually being assigned to females workers with nimber fingers, but due to too many workers have resigned lately they have no choice but to assign these jobs to male workers.

Most new employed male workers do not have nimber fingers.

An iPhone 5 back-plate run through in front of me almost every 3 seconds. I have to pickup the back-plate and marked 4 position points using the oil-based paint pen and put it back on the running belt swiftly within 3 seconds with no errors. After such repeat action for several hours, I have terrible neckache and muscle pain on my arm. A new worker who sat opposite of me gone exhausted and laid down for a short while. The supervisor has noticed him and punished him by asking him to stand at one corner for 10 minutes like the old school days. We worked non-stop from midnight to the next morning 6 a.m but were still asked to keep on working as the production line is based on running belt and no one is allowed to stop. I’m so starving and fully exhausted.

By my own calculations, I have to mark five iPhone plates every minute, at least. For every 10 hours, I have to accomplish 3,000 iPhone 5 back plates. There are total 4 production lines in charge of this process, 12 workers in every line. Each line can produce 36,000 iPhone 5 back plates in half a day, this is scary … I finally stopped working at 7 a.m. We were asked to gather again after work. The supervisor shout out loud in front of us: “Who wants to rest early at 5 a.m !? We are all here to earn money ! Let’s work harder !” I was thinking who on earth wants to work two extra hours overtime for only mere 27 yuan (USD$4) !?

Workers rushing their work flow.(Photo Credit: ABC)

On the next following day, we were all being treated the same way by our supervisors and all of us were very pissed. Every time we picked up the iPhone 5 components, we put it back on the running belt real hard and scold “fxxk” just to release our stress. One of the senior advised us to stop work on time at 5 a.m even if the supervisor ask you to over time, as this is not against the regulations. Among our batch of 36 new workers, only two workers were lucky enough to arrange work under the quality control inspection department, where they get to rest 10 minutes for every 2 hours work, unlike the rest of us who have to work non-stop for 7 straight hours. — (End of Diary)



Our Thought …

We are confounded on the diary on how bad the living condition of the Foxconn workers at the dormitory and the kind of treatment they have received. Though it’s still interesting to know the workflow of manufacturing the iPhone 5 back-plate. Although there is no guarantee of the report’s authenticity, but we still feel that all Apple fanboys should appreciate the hard work from the Chinese workers, as they have worked overtime which is certainly underpaid, just to rush out the iPhone 5 hoping to meet the scheduled of the launching date. Now we are getting even more excited after roughly knowing the factory’s production workflow of the latest iPhone 5. So what is Apple going to show us after 20 hours time ?

The original printed newspaper report on the under-covered. The published date is
on August 27th, we believe the under-covered may conducted in July.

SOURCE: Shanghai Evening Post (Chinese translated)



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  • aj

    well i am from such country and this is very common scenario for most of the factories. i wonder why walmart has never come into focus..

    • golum

      it has several times, and its no secret anymore…. its just that after yelling in the internet, they find that they still want that soon-to-rip $4 T-shirt with angry bird pictures and logo on it…..

  • kmamic

    I hear there’s a long waiting list just to get a job there. The pictures look nice! I cant wait to get the next one. Thanks for reminding me of the quality and dedication that goes into an iPhone…. and just before the iPhone 5 launch too! Good timing ;)

    • Wind of Truth

      Very funny comment.I think all the non thinkers are forgetting that all the people that have involvement in Apple products are benefiting in some way.From manufacture to consumer!..It’s true that parts of this amazing product structure are grossly unfair with greed & exploitation,but who has ever had a fair life? Even this healthy debate has sprouted from adversity.Pack up your troubles in your old kit bag & smile :) Apple products are providing work for millions,on many levels.Millions are enjoying the entertainment they provide.Or shall we just tear down the highway of life,go back to the stone age & all die young!….The Earth won’t be here for ever,neither will we..Love you all ;)

  • Tadejz

    Did you translate it right? At 1st it says he has only 3 sec to mark 4 points. But then he says he have to mark 5 plates every min. So that is 12 sec to mark 4 points and not 3. I wonder what else is over exaggerated.

    • John smith

      Bitch it don’t matter apple is using workers to fulfil there product by over working these people with harsh treatment. Why don’t you go work there and see who’s exaggerating fucker

      • Samson

        Dear John smith, you are as dumb as you seem to be. Samsung, Sony, Acer and all of the others let produce at Foxconn and similar companies as well. But you’re totally falling for the anti Apple propaganda.

      • Lupin

        Impressive, for you are surely the veritable bitch in heat (or in season, as it were).

    • http://www.facebook.com/calumk Calum Knott

      I think it means one point every 3 seconds….

    • Cyril Chang

      It’s 3 seconds to mark 4 points on one plate

    • Goat of Death

      Wow, I hang my head in shame at the poor quality of the mathematics education you received. 4 points on a plate, with 3 seconds allocated for each point. 3 x 4 = 12 seconds total per plate. Take that, multiply by 5. 12 x 5 = 60 seconds. 60 seconds = 1 minute. 5 plates ever minute. Please try to learn basic math and deductive logic before dissing claims made by someone who was actually there.

    • inquirercet

      ahahh!! the gotcha moment every dimwit looks for.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Ekubecompany Ekube Company

    I cant believe that after reading about inhumane brutal conditions at Foxconn (and 100% certain at any Foxconn-like company) M.I.C wraps up the story with “Now we are getting even more excited after knowing the factory’s
    workflow of the latest iPhone 5. So what is Apple going to show us after
    20 hours time ?” Is that your conclusive moral! Ive never read such a vain/vile statement before. I dont care about the iphone or a galaxy S, i care about people. we care about people. I bet none of you work in such condition. Shame on you

    • Fred

      +1

      • Pasquale

        I know you care about people, but remember that people care about the price! This is only a small example of mass production in Asian country…

    • jasontoheal

      inhumane and brutal? i used to have my own lawn mowing business… mowing lawns in 40 degrees celsius was hard, tiring, and taxing on my body… but inhumane?

      • vtchuck

        I think the key thing here is the 7 hours of repeative motions with no break. I used to do some back-breaking work at a loading dock, and my 8-hour shift was much more physically demanding than marking plates with a pen, but at least I had breaks and was always moving around to break up the monotony. But the idea of doing what they do –sitting still, the same repetitive motion, in 12-second increments, for 7 straight hours, kind of terrifies me.

      • timbo

        You can take breaks whenever you want, and choose to work overtime, while pocketing all or most of the profit gained, and you’re not forced to live on the lawns you mow.

        More than a Foxconn employee or any tech factory worker in Asia can claim: mandatory overtime, fixed breaks, and if you produce more units than targeted you have less time to sleep before the next day… of the same kind of work in a factory you’re not allowed to leave if you want to keep your job.

    • Yzord

      Care for yourself. No one is caring about the people behind the iPhone. You say you care, but why ticking you message on that cheap made, but expensive sold keyboard? Or why do you wear your jeans which is made by young children? And tell me, why do we have to involve in such matters? Do you know that the procedure there is normal? That those people are more then happy that they have work and that you, the rich dude, wants to try to change that but at the end you end up with a closed factory and people which do not have a job anymore.

      As you see, you care only about yourself and your thoughts. And that my man…..is your selfish thought which you want to spread out. Well dude….be proud of that.

      • Damien

        +2

      • rennock

        You are right in one aspect: there is no conscionable alternative. All smartphones, cellular phones and consumer electronics are made in China, Taiwan (cough, PRC, sorry), Hong Kong, Korea, etc. …all in similar conditions. If consumers don’t want to back this irresponsible treatment of factory workers, they basically have to give up all personal electronics. All of them. And getting on Foxconn’s case alone does nothing: it gives their competitors leverage to treat their workers worse, charge less, and take their business from them.

        But wrong is still wrong. Technology doesn’t have to be made like this, and
        your response is the same as anyone else involved in corporations that purchase from Foxconn, Flextronics, Quanta, ASUS, etc., the
        same stance Apple takes in pricing their products and computers: screw
        the poor. Only Apple is less severe: if you’re poor in America, Apple just ignores you and sells their products to others. If you’re poor in China, stop talking, work harder and die quietly… the truth is there’s 15 people seeking this work for every one of them who quits, dies, or gets blacklisted.

      • Dr. Bob

        Because if we live our lives walking on the backs of others, rather on being lifted by their shoulders, we are all doomed….sooner or later we then all get to be walked on.
        The market allows us, in the short run, to avoid “knowing.” But that is the short run and if we do not pay, history tells us our children will.

      • http://www.facebook.com/people/Chris-W-Foster/1174878863 Chris W Foster

        I buy a lot of used stuff. My HTC Touch Pro2 is VERY used, I think I’m the 3rd owner which says a lot for a phone if you ask me.
        I buy my clothes used sometimes… Not socks or shoes. But I only buy those 2 on sale.

        I spend most of my time off at the homeless shelter helping out there. I spend a lot of my extra money there buying supplies and essentials.

        I DO care a lot about other people. Even hateful people like yourself… Without you, how would I know how to take the REALLY good qualities in a good person? Perhaps something in your life made you this angry? I’m not to judge.

        I make ~50k a year here in Dallas, Texas working a VERY sketchy and dangerous job as a Foreclosure Inspector. (I have so many medical bills I can’t be financed for any school, house, or car… No joke). So it’s one of VERY few jobs you can struggle into, and actually make a decent middle class wage.
        I have been down on the bottom like a lot of these workers. Not for 4$ an hour, but for minimum wage a few times, yes. I care, and I want change. Will I buy this iphone? heck no. I haven’t owned a single iphone yet. My HTC TP2 was a job requirement before (being the fastest windows based phone available at the time)… Before that I had a FREE blackberry curve 8330.
        I’m not walking around in designer clothes. Not even name brand.

        A few of my computer parts were bought off craigslist, used as well (and cleaned to the best of my ability lol).

        My cars are bought used.

        And my furniture is all used as well (hand downs from family members).

        You don’t know anything about the commenter you’re judging, he could be JUST like me.
        At least we make an attempt to care.

    • http://twitter.com/ttul Ken Simpson

      Cool – so who wants to pay $5,000 for a US-made iPhone 5?

      • Joe

        Ken, what a naive, overprivileged, undereducated spoiled american brad you are! You don’t have to pay a single dime more for it for what you pay right now because apple puts 40% profit margin on it, comparing to 2-3% of average tech company. And they sleep on a stockpile of cash. Had they lowered their margin, they could have produced those devices in USA without any difference to customer’s pocket. Again, typical american greed.

      • Peter King

        Ken, a f…. ignoring brick you are. You are willing to pay cheap for something that most of us don’t need (and keep f… upgrading for no f… reasons) so that you can see other people suffer for your own greed. Take one second and think about it, how the f…. people still survive without the cell phone before? Nobody stop you from owning material things but don’t f…. let the material things own you. GOT IT BRICK

      • Ex2Bot

        Ken, you ignorant slut!

        :)

      • crod325

        Ken is an idiot. Not all American’s think like him. As an American, I apologize on our behalf, and I am proud to say I have never purchased an iPhone, nor will I ever. I promise to make a conscious effort into checking the background of companies when making any electronic purchases.

      • Doug

        Unfortunately I can’t find the reference—this comes from Apple, or someone close to it. A US-made iPhone would only cost something like $60 more to produce. The problem is that it is not possible to scale production capacity to the phenomenal numbers possible in China due to the population; the cost is secondary.

        Treating workers with decency is a small fraction of the iPhone retail price. Unfortunately executives at the likes of Apple and Foxconn don’t seem to think treating workers with decency is important.

    • Cyril Chang

      I wrote this article for Foxconn to see how the worker think and feel when working on the iPhone 5 for them, it’s interesting to know how iPhone 5 is made but dun be mistaken as i’m not happy to see workers being treated badly

    • Elisa

      That was EXACTLY what i was thinking. “Our Thought…”?! WTF!

    • David

      I can believe it. I don’t want to say that outrage is 100% uncalled for but I do believe it exposes a great deal of cultural / societal ignorance on our part when Foxconn’s and similar facilities are condemned as shameful exploitation: 1st world of the west, meet poverty. That’s the introduction global business, global economy, global etc. is making with every inch of advance. Lots of people clearly don’t know the context around it and can’t stomach it.

      Also, critics, you must consider the fact that “sweatshop” factory wages are enticingly high for a significant population of people in many countries. We are talking: “Mom, I’ll work the farm while you wait in line at Foxconn so we don’t have to sell daughter #2 for food money.” How about we direct our outrage at the global human condition that allows such work conditions to be an improvement?

      My wife who grew up in a quasi-rural area in China honestly sees factories like this (along with the 1 child policy… another discussion) as a positive thing; poor people in China don’t get squat. No handouts, no government aid, nothing. Is Foxconn & the like the ideal situation? No, but it’s a step forward to be honest.

      And I’ll say that condemning Apple or any other single entity for using Foxconn & company is a drastic over simplification and it’s unclear at best that anyone would benefit from simply shutting down such a factory. Sorry all, we live in a crazy world.

      • Guest

        Maybe you are the one who is crazy.

      • Huhwhatyouwant

        Having bars that locks you up like a bird cage, and then being treated like an animal. Also being paid 4$ for two hour overtime. YOU MUST BE CRAZY FOR ACTUALLY TRYING TO MAKE THIS SOUND AT ALL GOOD. And a step forward, you must mean a step forward to going to hell if that’s what you mean.

    • Daniel

      Unfortunately, this is the real face of most of us. We’re holding in one hand an iPhone and in the other hand a tissue paper to wipe out our tears.

    • http://www.facebook.com/kyrylo.chychota Kyrylo Chycheta

      i assume you haven’t ever heard about such a thing called “Sarcasm”

    • Lee Hobson

      Could not agree more!
      What a disgusting way to summarise such a dreadful situation. I can’t believe you would think that risks the workers are currently taking by standing up for their is for nothing.
      You represent exactly the kind of selfish, ignorant, racist, abhorrent cunsumeristic section of of society that, through your insecure need to constantly have the ‘next best thing’ so people still admire you, encourages countries with poor human rights histories to further abuse their citizens.
      Enjoy your new shiny- thing….. And maybe once in a while ask yourself ‘who are you without it?’

    • http://www.facebook.com/jackie.schneider.1426 Jackie Schneider

      I agree Ekube, this is disgusting what they do to these people / slaves. SHAME ON APPLE! I SAY SMASH THE FING IPHONES IN ALL APPLE STORES, TELL APPLE TO GO STRAIGHT TO HELL FOR THE SLAVERY OF THOSE WORKERS IN CHINA!! THE WORKERS WALKED OUT, THEY NEED TO DO IT AGAIN, JUST AWFUL, JUST AWFUL!!

  • Fred

    I’m so sad. I like Apple products. But I’m really fed up about human nature. We want everything for less no matter the price to pay for other humans. I feel really bad a,d I really would like foxconn employees to live in better conditions. Foxconn has the money to offer each of them an apartment. And they should get a descent salary. No matter the price of the final product ! I feel guilty about this !

    • Ittiam

      Dont feel guilty… Should see this in context… What is the alternative to these guys? Slaving in agriculture fields in remote villages in China… In the fields, they will probably they will barely earn enough to have two small meals a day… The work at factory is much better alternative

  • Who, me?

    Foxconn’s other major customers include Acer, Amazon, HP, Nokia, Intel, Samsung, Microsoft, Sony, Motorla, Dell, Nintendo.

    But for some reason these articles always seem to focus on Apple.

    • Youssef Mrabet

      Because they do not produce for all those companies in the same facilities and not necessarily under the same conditions. More important, Apple makes a hell of a margin on its products, more than any of the other companies you just mentioned, but still doesn’t care about working conditions or ecology!

    • BobbyT

      Who gives a shit … these conditions are disgusting and all you can think of is defending your beloved Apple?

      • http://twitter.com/ttul Ken Simpson

        They’re not disgusting compared with the grinding poverty in which most Chinese live in the rural areas of the country. You have to put FoxConn in perspective: their conditions suck, but are still better than most employers in China. Think about the poor guys who paint GI Joe figures 12 hours a day… you think anyone cares how miserable their conditions are?

      • veggiedude

        But you ignore the fact that Apple is the leading model for all others when it comes to workers rights and pay. All the others lag way behind and are far worse. Understand? Far far far worse.

    • http://twitter.com/quidpro quidpro

      Because this job focused specifically on parts for Apple maybe? Just maybe.

    • Aaron

      No other company makes the ridiculous margins that Apple does. Apple is in the position to ‘think different’ and could make things better for very little cost but they choose not to.

  • Abdul Rahman Noor

    I don’t see why the iPhone is the target of this article – this sort of sub-human treatment of workers happen all over the eastern world; particularly in the oil-rich UAE and India and everywhere else where there’s cheap labor and plenty of stuff to be produced.

    I have personally seen dormitories like these where ENGINEERS live, and this was in Dubai. You don’t hear anyone complaining about that!

    My point is, yes this is cruel and all; but this article merits discussion elsewhere – like maybe a human rights site, not on a tech blog.

    • ejvyas

      Does not happen in India anymore. Please dont comment without any references

      • Ashim A

        Heard of Sivakasi? Every year, children die while people burst firecrackers..

    • Wind of Truth

      Happens in England too!..I’m a qualified precision engineer who,not so long ago was working in similar conditions for Zeus engineering(Exeter)….£4.50 an hour…..8 hour shifts with only a half hour lunch break.On one job I was drilling 10 thousandths of an inch holes in steel brake calliper pins for London taxi brake callipers.I had 5,000 to drill & got a bollocking every time I broke a drill.!!!! Three solid weeks of manufacturing Hell.!!!…Food & accomodation would have been nice.I eventually suffered a mental breakdown!..Open your pampered eyes everyone.Work hard & get dirty!..we are all living on & crushing the backs of those who do…Love,Truth & Peace to you all……

  • http://www.facebook.com/Heimaktivist Heim Aktiv

    Three things i dont understand. Did he mark one plate every 3 seconds or 5 every minute? A huge difference. Also a 7hour work shift without a break isn’t abnormal in Europe as well. And the fact that they will be asked for over hours is a big step in china. 2$ an hour underpaid? 50cent is the average payment for such work. Ask the biggest smartphone manufacturer Samsung in korea if they have similar conditions, please… Nobody cares

    • rennock

      Being the article is translated, there are going to be errors. (Nimber? Isn’t that a term in game theory?)

    • Cyril Chang

      it’s one plate every 3 seconds

  • OverlordBR

    This is why asian countries will overcome USA! Americans are so lazy!

  • Lee Tao

    Have any of you guys seen other factories in China to make a fair comparison?

    • rennock

      Have any of us SEEN a chinese factory in the first place? If we’re questioning the source, may as well go the full nine.

  • tengvoo

    Is that where the kids get paid 10 cents an hour to build Apples products??

  • Odessa

    Reading these comments is disgusting. It’s just depressing to see all of you yammering on and asking why this ad targets Apple. The point is not who it targets, the point is that it exists. You should all be expressing out rage for your fellow human beings. But instead, you choose to go off topic and deviate attention from the actual POIN, and avoid the real issue at hand.

  • Odessa


    Reading these comments is disgusting. It’s just depressing to see all of you yammering on and asking why this ad targets Apple. The point is not who it targets, the point is that it exists. You should all be expressing outrage for your fellow human beings. But instead, you choose to go off topic and deviate attention from the actual POINT, and avoid the real issue at hand

  • http://www.facebook.com/kagen101 Johann Eloff

    According to my understanding is the way these factories work is part of their culture…that is what they understand. It might look harsh to the west but have you seen how they raise their kids or train for mayor competition…it it the way they are wired.
    Over and above that you tell them they can’t work overtime anymore for the meagre $2 then they will complain that they don’t have an oppertunity to make extra money to take back home at the end of the working cycle for this year…and even in these conditions they still make more money then they will ever make working in any rural area.
    Over and above that, there are a billion people living in this country where the majority comes from a rural area, and this country being a communist socialist state with capitalistic tendencies it is very difficult to start your own business that is not within the mould. And if you don’t want to do it, there is 10 people waiting to replace you, so even if they continuously cycle everyone, there will always be someone willing and ready to do it in the short term…
    The west might not understand or like it or use it for hoopla propaganda, that is just the way it is!

  • http://www.facebook.com/MikeChase777 Michael-Chase Eaton

    Have any of you worked as a roofer in florida or with Highway Dept.
    Ive worked on assembly lines myself.. its the nature of the job..
    They got it darn good.. stop the whining

  • BJack

    This is why America doesn’t have production factories for large companies. Every one of us have get paid an acceptable amount and have the best of working conditions. We don’t want to be treated like animals, than why do we let other countries treat their workers like animals and our governments line up to sign trade agreements with them.

  • narg

    Yet, Apple makes so much money… Gotta love free enterprise.

  • howtomakeit

    So what phone is manufactured humanely?

    • rennock

      HTC builds in Taiwan, and RIM builds in Malaysia, Samsung is a crap shoot (some in Korea, most in China and growing). Apple has a Foxconn factory in Brazil building some of it’s mobile products, but being Foxconn, I can’t imagine an improved situation over there vs. China.

      Humanely? Honestly all of them have issues, and even considering HTC/RIM, they are still using China-sourced materials. If you want personal tech with a clean conscience, you need to stop using it altogether.

  • http://www.facebook.com/profile.php?id=554676479 Anthony J. Mitchell

    You guys do a damn great job. I can not wait to buy my new cheap labor expensive iPhone 5.

  • JimboBob

    Who cares….when can I buy my iPhone 5 already!

    • rennock

      Feed the rich and f*** the poor. Great mantra.

  • Dan

    It has been said that the cost of manufacturing the i-phone in the US would add less than $30 to the cost of the phone. Apple and all companies who refuse to hire United States workers are traitors. They are not job creators. They are not patriots. Bring manufacturing back to the United States, where the product was invented and the economy needs jobs. Shame on you greedy businesses.

    • http://blog.monstuff.com Julien Couvreur

      You forgot the greedy consumers.

    • golum

      before you go all ape on the net, think, who in america will actually apply for this type of job? i think that’s another reason why its not produced in the US.

      • http://jeremymattocks.me/ Jeremy Mattocks

        *facepalm* Jesus Christ. How about some of those people who are unemployed right now because there aren’t enough jobs to go around?

      • codifex

        I think that the corporations think that hiring Chinese is cheaper than building robots. When the Chinese are tired of being treated like robots then things will change. The sooner the better.

  • Martin

    Come on. This article is just an attack to Apple as they are the number 1. Blame the Chinese government why they let this happen to its citizen. Do you really think people will not buy an iPhone because of this? You guys are pathetic. You’ll do anything to ruin Apple’s reputation. And as far as I know, that kind of work environment is normal in China. That is why almost everything is ‘Made in China’ – the labor is cheap.

    • timbo

      Apple’s reputation is bad because if Foxconn would improve their standards, their costs would rise, and Apple would seek a new contractor. Foxconn would lose a lucrative contract, Apple’s new contractor may have worse conduct than Foxconn, and nothing changes.

    • Cyril Chang

      I still love iPhone, I hope foxconn can just really improve the living condition of the workers if they have the ability to do it

      • Wind of Truth

        I admire your concern,but it is a problem even in our so called 1st world countries.PLEASE read my wind of truth comments below.We are all exploited someway or another in this competitive,crazy,greed ridden,dog eat dog world.Problems of humanity will always be with us! They just shift around this mad chessboard we call the Earth!…..Love,truth & peace brother :)

  • Sammy

    I’ve worked in a small factory in Shanghai (I was at a desk job, but the factory floor was nearby) and I’ve seen conditions similar to this. I know the culture, I know the norms, and I have to say this is bad even by Chinese standards. You can’t say that the Chinese don’t mind it either, because obviously the retention rate is terrible and suicide has been a big problem. Yes, their culture is different, but that only goes so far. They’re still human.

  • Adforum

    Sick … that Microsoft, Dell, Toshiba, Intel, HP, Acer, Nintendo, Nokia, Sony and Satan’s balls, Samsung does not care about the workers at this company.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Edmund-Kopola/100003514441047 Edmund Kopola

    Sick … that Microsoft, Dell, Toshiba, Intel, HP, Acer, Nintendo, Nokia, Sony and Satan’s balls, Samsung does not care about the workers at this company.

  • miguelgo

    INHUMANE CONDITIONS. THIS IS A SHAME. PLS DONT BUY IT !!!!!

    • timbo

      So, summing up your multiple posts: Go buy an iPhone, but Apple are traitors for outsourcing. We should blame China for it’s own problems, you’ve worked in China and it’s actually bad out there but everyone should stop reading this article because it’s not true.

      Kinda confused with your stance.

      • miguel

        Multiple post !!! You really are very confused

      • Anita

        You are very silly people. You must go to china for work. You have to learn and go to school.

  • Cyril Chang

    Honestly i’m amused by this diary when i’m writing the article. I lived in China for nearly 10 years and visited dozens of factories and working conditions in the china factories has been improved tremendously over the past years. Such things shouldn’t still exist nowadays…

  • http://www.facebook.com/jimlai718 Jim Lai

    old story made new. companies will move their factories to places with cheap labor, and in 5 years time when labor costs rise until the costs to make a new iphone is too expensive, it will just move to the next under developed country. This is the process that every country undergoes to reach a developed country, i’m sure back in the industrial revolution the working environment wasn’t so humane either.

    • rally2xs

      If the US would get rid of its income taxes that suck the life out of manufacturing here, we would set up machinery to produce all these products, and likely have 1 worker tending machines replace 30 – 50 workers at Foxxcon doing manual labor. Doesn’t matter if they pay them $2 / hr in China and we pay our machine operator $35/hr, we’ll still win it in production efficiency. The only thing we can’t do is send 35% of the profits to Washington, DC and expect to be competitive in the world of manufacturing

  • David

    What a waste of human potential..

  • gaarder

    The translation is wrong. The original (Chinese) article says: “我被分到“点油墨”,就是用油画笔在手机后盖的四个1毫米见方的接触点上涂上保护用的油墨” It is talking about putting protective ink on 4 electrical contacts (the pins on iPhone connectors) of 1mm size. This is an obvious mistake and indicates clearly the article is a fake (there has never been “4 pins” in any iPhone!!). Instead the line is mis-translated into:

    I’m being assigned to mark placement points on the iPhone 5 back-plate using an oil-based paint pen.

    which cleverly hides the error!!

    • ribersan

      They are probably some contacts inside the phone. Have you ever tried to disassemble a smartphone? It is packed with chips, connectors and other components.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joer293 Joe Rose

    Yes this looks bad, from our American current post industrial revolution perspective. But compare this to America’s industrial revolution, we did the same things (even worse in many cases) to our own citizens. Americans had to learn from our mistakes, unions had to form, people had to fight back, and start negotiating a better life with employers and government regulation. China is going through their industrial revolution right now. They have the same conditions, same issues. Who are we to deprive other countries of this, and just dictate how they should be? Chinese workers can learn from us, form unions, we can share our knowledge and experience but we should never dictate.

  • Wolfraider

    5 cases a minutes would be 1 every 12 seconds with would have 1 mark created every 3 seconds, simple typo but the numbers work out

  • http://www.pocketinfo.net/ Robert Latchford

    A fascinating insight into the rat race in China and Foxconn. Go back 100 years and it was the same in the factories of Europe and America. Improve the conditions and increase the pricing of the technology – either that or Foxconn or Apple are pocketing too much of the profit. (Apple is sitting on a $100bn+ cash mountain)…

  • jchin

    I am a big proponent for proper work environment. the funniest thing is that I wonder how many of the people have actually been to China to other facilities? I grew up in Asia and the living environments and work conditions are measured at completely different standards, PERIOD. The people sleeping on stools is common, cockroaches is common, and people screaming at each other is common, and so is the rude attitude (think some of the chinese restaurants you go to in the states). You can replace this facility with many other Chinese companies and everything is the same. The real issue isn’t about Apple. It is really about the way and culture of the work environment in China.

    • Talung2

      Correct, well stated, but then you are a person speaking from first hand knowledge, therefore you have a basis for solid commentary.

  • marto

    bah, two weeks from, we’ll have forgotten about this story and will be using our smartphones happily (always get a kick at looking at people in the subway…most with their head down looking at a screen). Next iphone release… new foxconn story… same old…same old.

  • Uppitynproud

    How 1984ish. Ironic considering Apple was trying to criticize everyone else for being 1984ish. Apple made it a reality in China.

  • Talung2

    It must all be true, after all you read it on the Internet and gee his story is so well balanced…….

    I work in China, tell me Cyril, how does this compare to other manufacturing facilities? Why do workers line up for jobs, surely they know the conditions? What were the conditions of their previous job? How many don’t want the OT…..really? How would you compare the supervision to other state of the art China factories? What’s the turnover rate? People must be leaving by the droves……

    Poor dumb yanks sitting on their sofas believe all this, they haven’t a clue…do they?

    Thanks for the technical piece, save the color……..

    • KoreaGe

      Advocating for slavery eh?

      • Talung2

        No, but I am tired of Americans sticking their nose in every country’s business and passing judgement based on American views of what is right or wrong. I have spent a lifetime living and traveling the world and most Americans haven’t a clue about the challenges that other countries face. Spend your time working on the slavery and injustices in America, let the Chineese work on their own issues.

    • Cyril Chang

      I personally worked as a factory manager before for 5 years, conditions are not as bad as mentioned in the diary in the Guang Dong province, as it’s difficult to hire labor nowadays if the salary is not high enough or the living conditions provided by the factory isn’t that good. If not, there are still plenty of people willing to work in factories.

  • Rick Ford

    It’s good to see Foxconn working their employees hard. They make an excellent product they should be proud of.

  • Nickels

    Can they use younger children to make these phones and bring the price down?

  • Calmanity

    China’s people are unaware for the most part about what life is really like in developed countries around the world like the US, Europe, Brazil, etc I used to date a woman from Shanghai who later became an excellent immigration attorney in the US when she left the workfarm she was assigned to immediately after high-school. This was compulsory for every graduate with a minimum one year working in the country-side. Sadly, many end up working there all their lives and never do return to live in the cities they came from. In her case, she was smart enough to read all night by the light of the bare bulb that lit the bunkhouse she shared with 15 other women all night long. Later, she was tested for her IQ and because she knew English, she was recruited by the State to become a spy, which she declined to do and it nearly sealed her fate as a long term field worker afterward. But, she was lucky to find a sponsor in Beijing who brought her to America where she went to college and got a JD degree while she worked at the US State Department giving tours to Chinese Business people interested in our capitalist system.
    As one involved in consumer electronics manufacturing in the US for many years, I can also assure you it isn’t just the cheap cost of labor that attracts businesses to China. Another major reason they go there is because of the loose regulations on pollution that electronics create during production. Also, the repetitive task issue is a source of constant litigation between workers and business owners in the US, something virtually non-existant in China. As a result, companies here making electronics products must pay echorbitant
    rates for insurances covering a number of expensive lawsuit issues. So, if you want to blame anyone for the Chinese worker’s woes, blame the lawyers who drove companies out of the US.
    I also see a time coming soon where electronic manufacturing will return to the US, but most jobs will be low paying here too since most of the nimble work will be performed by robots with final assembly and packaging done by those with less advanced skills. My guess is these jobs by and large will pay no more than $10/hr with production rates consistent with what Chinese wokers accomplish today. The big bucks wil go to people who can design, build and maintain the robots and those that can go out and sell, sell, sell the products they make.
    IMO the best outcome for the Chinese people will be small cottage industry shops where they can produce products of high quality for domestic use or export when they have abundant low-cost energy available on an indiviual basis. This minor miracle is also something that could be applied here in the US and elsewhere with low-cost independent clen energy generation available to anyone who wants it, which would suggest that many dreams could come true for those wishing to pursue them individually. After all, isn’t that true living is really supposed to be all about?

    • Cyril Chang

      Good comment

  • to rich to care

    I guess I missed the part where the workers are forced at gunpoint to make these things but hey it must be tough working in a place where only one third of the video games in the staff amusement centre are operational

    • Alan

      hey come on now, the undercover reporter couldn’t even find a place that sold beer on the site!

  • http://twitter.com/anupsoans anupsoans

    The exploitation of labour by Foxconn is shocking. Come to think of it – poor Chinese are slaving away for poor wages in terrible conditions just to produce these fancy gizmos. This could be the beginning of their decline. Remember, “A great civilization (company) is not conquered from without (by competitors) until it has destroyed itself within” – Will Durant. The hubris and tragedy of modern economy is that it has too much technology and too little philosophy.

  • Sue Stack

    Thank you for being a whistle blower on the horrible conditions at Foxconn. We need to stop treating people like slaves for the benefit of the all mighty dollar. No wonder Americans are taking the jobs overseas. I wish the people at Foxconn could strike.

    • Cyril Chang

      A lot of occasions, workers do get better benefits after a strike, especially in China

  • Global Conscience

    Steve Jobs. The Budhist…..The bullshit artist artist. Apple products will bear the badge of exploitations and show the owner to be a bully. Who in their right mind will buy a Apple product now!

  • Bill Lambert

    I have one word for you: choice.

    The conditions are poor because the workers allow themselves to be abused. To see thousands of people willingly accept this kind of treatment for a minuscule wage, that is no one’s fault but their own. They could work somewhere else. They could work for themselves. The only way to punish Foxconn and force them to change their ways is to threaten their bottom line, and the way to do it is by withholding labour. The most powerful word in any language is “No.”

    • Elisa

      You are totally wrong. If they had a chance, no one would work in those conditions. The problem is that the have NO chance.

    • a human

      So if they are abused it is because of themselves! So if a girl is raped it is because of her! You are a genius!

    • http://twitter.com/AristarcoP Aristarco Palacios

      No. Wrong. Choice is an illusion created between those with power and those without.

  • http://www.facebook.com/k.reidar Reidar Kristiansen

    One reason I never buy anything from Apple.

  • Nikola Stjelja

    That kind of worker treatment is really something that can be seen in the Outsourcing scene of Croatia. I’ve seen it in many companies here who work in outsourcing. Of course workers are not threated that badly, but month long twelve and fifteen hours a day, all week, event holidays like Christmas are really something which is a part of the daily life of developers in Croatia.

  • A human

    You are a bunch of motherfuckers! Really I hope one day chinese people will dominate our “democratic” west countries and treat us like we do today. Then I will ask you what do you think about… You don’t know what is empathy, poor guys with large asses unable to think with your poor brain destroyed by advertising! F**k yourselves and really hope you can be fired because you have in your pocket your f**ked smartphone. Have fun until you can, this is your philosophy. And please, don’t use arguments about they live in extreme poverty, and this is the only way to give them a better life, because then it means you don’t f**king care to give them a life like yours, with your f**king smartphones, your f**king retina display, your f**king facebook and all other shit you are addicted to!

    • Human 2 Human

      I love you man . You sayd it in the best way it could be sayd with rage.I’m not american and im not a chinese also. Salve from italy

    • Steph

      A human, YOU are the retarded motherfucker! If the chinese people don’t like being treated like shit and if they are tired of being taken advantage of, then they should GET UP OFF THEIR LAZY ASSESS and fight for their rights like we, in the west, once had to do! It is NOT my responsibility or any Westerner to fight their battles for them. The chinese government is the one allowing the exploitation of its citizens for greed and profit and the chinese people are the enablers who allow this to happen.

      Until the chinese PEOPLE decide to stop being such pussies, get the hell back on that line at Foxconn and assemble my smartphone, bitches.

  • cannon fodder

    Don’t worry America, let’s continue to treat other people like this shit and everyone will love you!

  • Blue

    Sorry to say… if the security is so tight especially over the Top security area, how come so many pics can be taken n published here w/o the knowledge of the supervisor?? cant the detector sense the camera?? how come there’re pics in the production floor?? how true is it?? how true is the so called underpaid issue ?? if really so low pay im sure no one will wan to work for them!!

  • Helsefriken

    It is like this in China, and most other fabric areas of the world. Accept or stop consuming!

  • fafik

    I think those people working there are grateful to have a job and earn money not just for them but all families. That’s what for us west people looks inhuman for them is day to day reality. They most of the time dont have their own sleeping space…and of course no job. Its very easy to judge. Bit we didn’t grew up as Asian. Wrong don’t know their culture. They know they have to work hard to earn money. They don’t have the same possibilities as we do. They don’t have the same choices like we do. I don’t agree what is happening to them and i wouldn’t like to be treated this way. Its lots of places like this one. Almost every concern is using cheap work from Asia… Its not just apple. …

  • letstrythisagain

    yay privilege all wrapped up with abysmal journalistic skill.

  • Abigail Werma

    NO ONE seems to care about the minerals used in smart-phones and your laptops, and where they come from. There is an ongoing war where 5,4 millions died as a result of the conflict. Just like blood diamond, these are blood smart-phones. Although the conditions are inhumane for the chinese, at least they have a job to go to. Everytime YOU buy a laptop or a smartphone you are killing a congolese. Who is to be hold accountable for them?

  • Joseph

    This has nothing to do with Apple. The only one who can be blamed here is the Chinese government. Tney keep bullshitting about the Rule of Law and such stuff, yet their country is in total disarray while the government just stares at the situation without doing anything. The abuse there happens because it is allowed by local and higher authorities, pure and simple. It’s the corruption of Chinese inspectors and officials that makes this possible. Aka it’s Chinese people hurting Chinese people. Same as with recent anti-Japanese protests in which Chinese people destroy Japanese cars of other Chinese people (and take pictures of that on their Japanese cameras, to make things even more absurd). Chinese government is weak and incapable of dealing with these issues because they are too afraid of their own people and another great revolution. This is why they allow all of these things to happen. And that will be the end of them, sooner or later.

  • Waga

    This young reporter is a spoiled brat. I used to work in one of these Chinese factories–except this time they’re owned and operated by non-famous people making dull products. I assure you the conditions were at least livable for the workers. Heavily subsidized food, medical and housing, plus entertainment, transportation and social activities. Even then Foxconn would be the envy or Chinese laborors mostly from the countryside. The reporter here rather see these folks working the fields as they do in Vietnam, Sri Lanka or scores of other countries with developing economies? Have a perspective.

  • Vitaly

    Could you please clarify where you had found big troubles regarding workers rights? Only in moment with supervisor’s persisting about extra time? But employer could not to work additional time in accordance with law and even complain to FXC management about SV’s behaviour. Please consider that all assembly plants have similar processes regardless the country of location. It’s quite strange to read comments of guys who have no clue about procedures in modern assembly plants

  • Vitaly

    Could you please clarify where you had found big troubles regarding workers rights? Only in moment with supervisor’s persisting about extra time? But employer could not to work additional time in accordance with law and even complain to FXC management about SV’s behaviour. Please consider that all assembly plants have similar processes regardless the country of location. It’s quite strange to read comments of guys who have no clue about procedures in modern assembly plants

  • Indy!

    Don’t know why anyone believes this is an Apple problem. This is what the US (and other western) economies demand. It’s not just Apple – it’s EVERY company manufacturing products in China. It’s EVERY factory in China (and everywhere else human rights are ignored). By buying into the Apple angle – you folks are being mislead to believe it’s one corporation taking advantage of these people. No. It’s every company that manufactures products in China. That’s EVERY product you buy in America (because NOTHING is made in America anymore). This is the economy we get when we sign all these trade agreements. If there were better jobs in China – would anyone want to work at these factories? No. They would take the good factory jobs and Foxconn would have to change their ways. But this is what is going on everywhere in China thanks to our outsourcing.

  • BTi

    So apple sold 2 million new iphones in 24 hours right ? Xiaomi sold 300.000 mi-one S ’s in under 5 minutes… makes you think..

  • igorsky

    Is this article suppose to create some sort of guilt trip for the American consumer? Or is it a referendum on China, which creates this environment in their country in order to steal jobs from the American worker?

    I vote for the latter.

  • igorsky

    Is this article suppose to create some sort of guilt trip for the American consumer? Or is it a referendum on China, which creates this environment in their country in order to steal jobs from the American worker?

    I vote for the latter.

  • Lopakaii

    Is Apple the only company making product in China ??

  • Don’t Buy Apple

    Got this stupid hipsters? America, UK, rest of the world…? Stop buying APPLE. Apple stopped being cool in the early 00’s anyway… the rest of you are just followers.

  • Trestle Rider

    I have been involved in computer manufacturing for nearly 30 years, and have been to the Foxconn Longhua facility on several occasions. I have also participated in product launches at Wistron, MiTAC, Solectron, Flextronics, Inventec, and Quanta. I have been to Taiyuan, but not the factory. i have been to over 12 provinces in China, and was often the only Laowai on the bus or train. My wife is from China. My first factory visit to China was in 1991. I have also visited factories in Taiwan, Malaysia, South Korea, Argentina, and Brazil, as well as US.
    The described working conditions are not brutal, but they are difficult, but also common worldwide for electronics manufacturing. Most all workers are quite young, and for good reason, since the work is quite physically demanding. Girls are generally preferred for the detailed work, gentler, smaller hands, sit longer. The previous generation of workers required all the structure, and dorms and control, but the younger ones, more modern, think first world more and more, so they tolerate such working conditions less. They will receive gradual improved working conditions, because they are ready for it, and so is the world.
    Look closely at the picture of the workers with outstreched hands. Fashonable clothes, punk hairstyles, free discussion of any topic, much less restrained regarding relations with the opposit gender, all of these are so very different from when Foxconn started, and so very different from even 8 years ago. China is changing all the time, the social is getting more first world, working conditions will follow. On the other hand, those same workers who might embrce first world more, might also voluntarily refuse safety measures, or preventative health measures, such as ear plugs in a metal stamping building, just because they fear they cannot hear the work properly, or they are uncomfortable. My point is that there are culteral issues, not not corperate issues, at play as well.
    The comments from outsiders are mostly accurate. The comments from those who have only lived in America, and have never visited a high labor part of the world, and never spent any time considering how manufacturing works, are wildly out of touch. They should get our and visit some factories in Mexico, or Sri Lanka, or Vietnam, or be shocked by visiting a textile factory in China.
    In China, it is common to pay bribes to obtain jobs, or licenses, or payoff officials for all sorts of government issues.
    If the factory is operated directly by European or American management, conditions are first rate by China standards. If the factory is operated by Taiwan management, sich as Foxconn, conditions are okay. If the factory is operated directly by China management, conditions can become far more deplorable, and there are no western stories providing the details.
    The young worker’s observations are accurate, but his parents would have loved the work, his older sibling would tolerate and not question it, but he sniffs at it and may likely try elsewhere, and perhaps he can find better work elsewhere, unlike in the past.
    Foxconn factories are dirtier, more grittier than most, but they are often more capable of high volume than any I have ever seen. Their provision for dorms and health care of workers was the envy of all years ago, but has not kept up and is now a lower standard than many other factories in China. Their manufacturing overhead costs are some of the cheapest in the world. However, eventually all this will unravel, as the newer workers, and customers, will no longer tolerate it. Foxconn does understand this, and will eventually, change into a something resembling a first world working environment but it takes time.

  • http://www.facebook.com/Keir23 Keir Ritchie

    This subject comes up quite a lot from people bashing Apple. What I like about it is the ability of people posting it to ignore the fact that all their gadgets are ALSO made by poor Chinese workers and most of them are made in the same factory.

    Foxconn makes components for Acer, Amazon, Apple, Cisco, Dell, Hewlett-Packard, Intel, Microsoft, Motorola, Nintendo, Nokia, Sony, Toshiba and others.

    So people writing such articles on any computer with Intel processors are being hypocritical, sanctimonious bellends.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Robbie-Wallis/1285522290 Robbie Wallis

    When you see the profit numbers of Apple, you’ll know where the money goes. These people could be paid a lot more, living in good conditions, with decent workers rights, but that would mean a fat CEO living in a mansion somewhere in the USA might have to cut back on a Yacht or three. Who profits the most? It’s entirely possible to keep items at a fair retail price AND stop this kind of abuse of a labour force, but the rich assholes making billions for sitting behind a desk need to take a massive pay cut!

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  • Arpatruc

    The instructor said: “You might feel uncomfortable of how we treat you, but this is all for your own good.”

    Is it just me, of it does remember me the slogan, “Arbeit macht frei” on the porches of the Buchenwald and Auschwitz concentration camps?

    • Steph

      Arpatruc: Yes, I can confirm that it is just you.

      You’re comparing employees who are free to quit their job at a factory to victims of concentration camps in WWII? Really?

      WoW! Talk about drama.

  • Benedict Marsh

    If there were metal detectors how did he get to take
    Photos? I find that a little fishy….. Undoubtedly there is some truth to the article
    But I doubt complete authenticity.

  • ranndino

    As with everything there are two sides to this issue. While this all sounds awful on one hand and none of us in the Western world would want this kind of a job these factories are also the reason that the standard of living in China is rising. These jobs are feeding people who would otherwise be starving in the Chinese countryside. They are pulling people out of total poverty and with time they will be able to move up the social ladder. For example, the kids of these workers might have money to attend a university and get better education allowing them to be employed in a much better job than that of their parents.

  • sean chen

    I don’t buy apple phone…………..Bad chi………

  • Steph

    I couldn’t give a sh!t less about this non-issue. I live in North America and all I want is the iPhone 5 I ordered a week ago. Companies are just doing business with the rules set forth by the chinese government. If the chinese people don’t like it, let them pay the price of revolt!

    These workers are not slaves. If they don’t like the working conditions, they are free to quit and walk away– and they should consider themselves lucky because if I were in charge, after yesterday’s riot at Foxconn, I would literally chain every one of those employees to their stations until the backed-up work was all caught up… AND I’d dock every one of them a weeks pay!

    I’d even file down all the male workers fingers so they would become more “nimber”. How does that sound?

  • http://www.facebook.com/gisuzin Giovana Moraes Suzin

    Fucked up!

  • Dave

    If you think this is bad just look into how bad the working conditions are for migrant farm workers in California. 8 hour shifts with only one 10min water break. Getting paid pennies for their work, and being exposed to pesticides while working in 110 degree weather.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Benjamin-Gibson/54705816 Benjamin Gibson

    Fucking sick.

  • Emile

    “Every time we picked up the iPhone 5 components, we put it back
    on the running belt real hard and scold “fxxk” just to release our stress”

    Maybe that is one of the reasons for the scuff gate problem?

  • Manuel Pool

    I would bet that Apple is not the only one keeping the kind of working conditions reported. Of course there`s no excuse for this kind of poor management.

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  • http://twitter.com/quidpro quidpro

    You’re falling for the pro-Apple propaganda. This diary doesn’t mention marking points on a backplate of an Acer, Samsung, Sony, or any of those. Just keep those blinders on. You’re doing great.

  • rennock

    While I’ll concur that cussing isn’t warranted in public discourse, having disgust in Foxconn’s practices isn’t anti-Apple. If Foxconn raised it’s prices and treated it’s workers better, Apple would seek another contractor who treats the workers the same as they are now for cheaper profits. Since Foxconn would lose the contract, the workers would either be laid off or work less lucrative product lines.

    Damned if you do, damned if you don’t.

  • ejvyas

    No references again!!

  • Sarilas

    I have to disagree, im in China since over 6 years now, after working under very good conditions for 3 years, I’ve strated my own company with 250 employees. You must know that the salarys in China are raising, 50% of our employees make about 750$ a month, which is the middle class i guess, Foxconn on the other side pays only 300-330$ a month.

    Foxconn workers are way underpayed, the conditions are more then bad. 90% of the other employers in china are better then Foxconn. And plese don’t tell me now what your media as FoxNews and ABCnews are telling you, they only show the worst cases and also only this what is insteresting, which some may understand, out of a capitalistic view.
    This well written article shows how bad the big companys are abusing people in China. Nokia, Apple, Samsung and many more. This happens often yes, but its not the norm.

  • http://www.facebook.com/joe.joejoe.9277 Joe Joejoe

    let’s say china automated these repetitive menial jobs. all of a sudden you have millions out of work, replaced by machines that would actually save money in the long run. by keeping these menial repetitive jobs in the hands of people rather than machines, they’re actually taking a hit to profit, and actually helping the people. you can argue that apple can afford to pay them more all you want, but in the end how much are you willing to pay someone for menial labor? should an american make $8,000 a month because they’re a janitor doing menial repetitive work? because that would be the equivalent of what people are asking for.

    china has a population of 1.5 billion. that’s over 5 USA’s worth of people and rising. of course life is going to be different. that is the consequence of over population. there is no fixing it. only a fraction of world wide workers produce everything everyone needs and consumes, the rest are service industry jobs that serve no purpose other than personal luxury.

  • Cyril Chang

    this kind of work need robots, but then they must arrange some human jobs for the workers

  • jasontoheal

    I see your point.

  • rennock

    This isn’t Wikipedia. Do your own research.

  • ejvyas

    LOL then why comment if there is no proper research!!

  • rennock

    I didn’t realize opinion was illegal. Forgive me, I’ll quit the internet now. Apologies.

  • ejvyas

    Thanks but that also needs proof

  • timbo

    Like any of your comments have so far?

  • ejvyas

    One of the reasons I dont buy Apple

  • rennock

    Nevermind, you’re the worst kind of troll: doesn’t matter what is said, as far as you care the last reply wins.

    Get a hobby.

  • Throckmorton Staniewicz

    If you please, wise sage, enlighten us: Which brand do you buy to avoid the pitfalls of under-protected workers? Everyone . . . Simmer down. Prepare to take notes. For we are in the presence . . . of Elvis. I mean Ej(cough). . . Uh, sorry, how to we pronounciate your name?

  • timbo

    You’ve posted 6 comments, unless there’s multiple JimboBobs out there. I’m just saying.

  • miguel

    Nothing to do with me

  • Cyril Chang

    You are voicing out my thoughts, thx

  • http://blog.monstuff.com Julien Couvreur

    Then surely Foxconn will find it hard to hire people and will have to raise wages or living condition or both.

  • stfu

    …well written?

    english isnt your first language either, huh

  • timbo

    And that makes no sense. Thanks for clarifying. (sarcasm)

  • rennock

    Ken, I’m sorry, but JimboBob is right. Your new name’s now Brad, got it?

  • Dan

    Ken may be an idiot but I’m pretty sure Apple products are being sold in more countries than the US. So unless you are typing on an old IBM typewriter you are as much of a brad as he is.

    That being said, I agree with your overall point :)

  • rennock

    It makes perfect sense: your confusion is your own.

  • miguel

    Your welcome. Maybe Apple employee ?

  • Chris Whalley

    I see the point you’re trying to make about it being better to keep people employed than machines, but you totally lost me with the overpopulation comment and also classifying the entire service sector as having no purpose other than personal luxury. Yes, many frivolous services exist but I think you and I wouldn’t be here today if it weren’t for services provided by doctors, nurses, cooks, and many others, including janitors. Cleanliness has been one of the cornerstones of human health and longevity since, well, pretty much forever. We probably wouldn’t have made it out of the stone age if some servant hadn’t dragged the rotting animal carcasses away from the village? Besides that, even frivolity has an important place this world.

  • http://www.facebook.com/meng.wang06 Meng Wang

    I am from China. Part of what you said, about the number of population, is definitely correct. But just because there are too many people mean we will not be treated as one without any basic right to rest, and a clean, good living condition?

    Many countries are overpopulated. Japan is more over populated than China but you never hear something like this (now). Of course there is a fix, but we have to work for it and strive for it.
    A lot of tech companies have much better work condition, and contractors they are working are making an effort to make sure the rights of the workers are protected (HP comes to mind). One of my friend interns at the an Intel factory making computer chips in China, and the condition is never something liek that. Apple, on the other hand, never made any real effort in improving the workers’ condition.
    It is sad that the Chinese government, being what it is, will never work to improve the workers’ condition. Apple doesn’t have the obligation to the workers, but their actions speak to what kind of company they are.

  • Steven Kuchinsky

    If automation saved them money they would be doing it. They are not hiring people instead because they care about the people but because the wages are so low it is worth their while.

  • Bill Lambert

    Quite the opposite, China’s problem is they’re using a socio-economic model that simply does not scale. They joined the capitalism log-jam far too late in the game, they should have known better. Instead of producing sustainable, affordable resources, they are squandering their funny money on random crap. They are being Americanized, quite simply, and quickly reaching the same outcome: 1% get richer, 99% get poorer.

    Should an American janitor make $8000 a month to mop a floor ? I don’t know. Should I make more than the janitor because I type things into a computer ? I don’t know either. Money is a fuzzy concept that stopped representing actual value a long, long time ago, right around the time we started letting private banks and the IMF decide our fates. China is going through the same trajectory, except their is accelerated about 20 times.

  • t1000

    Who would build and repair the robots. Who would engineer them, who would sell them the materials to make them. Just because people wouldn’t be putting tape on the back of an iphone, kill a Shitty job create a better one….

  • sarilas

    Let me quote this for you:

    “Our supervisor said that these works were actually being assigned to females workers with nimber fingers, but due to too many workers have resigned lately they have no choice but to assign these jobs to male workers.”

    This means that they are short on staff already.
    There will always be workers which will do this job because they give them food and a room where they can sleep.

    You must know in China the whole mind is different, if now a couple is married and they have a baby, but a bad future in the town where they come from, they will leave the child at the grandparents and go to work at a factory if they have to, only for the better future and education of they’r children. It is not like the west, where the parents are to egoistic to take a low wages job even if it could make a better future for the child, or grandparents which like to see the grandchild once in a while but they dont wan’t them on a long term.
    Here it’s about family, they appreciate everything. We can learn alot more from them.

  • jasontoheal

    Interesting.

  • Dan

    “…but their actions speak to what kind of company they are.” My point exactly. In the US Apple holds itself up as the superior company that cares about people and the human element. In reality they care about the bottom line and are willing to do whatever it takes to increase their profits. You point out that HP and Intel have both taken steps to improve working conditions yet they still have a less expensive product. What it comes down to is Apple’s willingness to exploit people for a cheaper product but still charges more than their competition. No wonder Apple’s stock is so high. This is the real Steve Jobs…

  • jasontoheal

    Yeah I see your point. I value legislation in my country that reduces exploitation.

  • Ex2bot

    Ah, yes. now we are all confused. Still, we are now confused together and therefore have reached unity.

  • Charles

    Which major company treats its Chinese employees the best? (I’m guessing Chuck E. Cheese)?

  • KoreaGe

    Actually I am not a US citizen and in fact I am living on the other side of the world, but I think this is not the issue with Americanism or putting western values first. Slavery is a global issue and I think that the world has long agreed that it is wrong and made more or less clear guidelines to what it is. SO this is not the issue of US interfering in other peoples affairs this is just the issue of right and wrong and this wrong in particular is easier to remedy.

  • Cyril Chang

    You understand China Culture very well

  • Cyril Chang

    I’m starting to think that iPhone 5 is priced too expensive

  • Talung2

    KoreaGe I think it really depends on how you define slavery, I agree with your thoughts but take exception to the suggestion that these workers are slaves. They are there to better their lives hard as that may seem to us westerners, nobody forced them to take the job and their free to leave……..

  • Reebox

    Chris, fantastically said.

  • scoia

    You don’t walk around in designer or branded clothes, ok, how is that relevant?
    You maybe think that cheap clothes are manufactured in better conditions than designer ones?

    I think it may be the other way around.

    Buying iPhones and other chinese-manufactured stuffs is far from being a good thing for the poor chinese workers.
    Global economy and these big factories have greatly improved chinese conditions of life, you may see them as bad but they are a start. As David said some posts before.

  • http://www.facebook.com/people/Binh-Cao/573599455 Binh Cao

    Chris, good for you man, hope good things happen to good people like you.

  • Guest

    After 3 other european languages, english ist the 4th european that i choose to learn

  • Sarilas

    English is the 4th european language that i choose to learn. So im sorry if my text is irritating you.

  • Pipetin

    Completely agree, it is much cheaper to pay the wages rather than buying a very expensive western machine to do the job, and that will probably have to be replaced after a few years

  • codifex

    I’ve worked on a factory floor before and I know that good morale is essential for an efficient workplace. Evidently, your managers think they can treat you like dirt. I expect soon the Chinese will get sick of it and change things for the better.

  • Chunk Lee

    Pasquale, The market will determine what the price is not the cost of labor. In a normal product, building the product (which includes labor) would account for ~ 1/3 of the cost to market. We (the market) are the ones willing to pay the ridiculous prices so we can have the next cool gadget from Apple, so our lust for having the next cool item that Apple tells us we need is what drives the price not the cost of manufacturing. Thus the money that would normally go to overworked laborers to give them a decent living wage is instead going to line the fat pockets of the Apple shareholders.